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Post by JoeObe25 on Apr 29, 2024 16:43:09 GMT -5
Just doesn't add up. Why leave when you are locked in to 30+ minutes a night along with being a main focal point of the offense on a team fresh off a historic NCAA tournament upset and near Sweet 16 appearance? Not exactly sure where he will be able to have that same role and opportunity at a higher level.
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Post by oudrummer on Apr 29, 2024 17:09:22 GMT -5
He’s not a vocal dude and doesn’t seem to seek the spotlight.
Any of you have the experience in high school where your friends were all older and they graduated and you looked around the school and realized your last year was gonna suck? Feels like Chris may have had this experience after graduating and realizing everyone else was gone and he’s still here.
Except he doesn’t have to be. He can make some NIL and begin his master somewhere.
Just wish he had done a senior night. Good for Chris. Good luck to him.
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Post by sportsdoctor05 on Apr 29, 2024 21:08:10 GMT -5
He’s not a vocal dude and doesn’t seem to seek the spotlight. Any of you have the experience in high school where your friends were all older and they graduated and you looked around the school and realized your last year was gonna suck? Feels like Chris may have had this experience after graduating and realizing everyone else was gone and he’s still here. Except he doesn’t have to be. He can make some NIL and begin his master somewhere. Just wish he had done a senior night. Good for Chris. Good luck to him. I like the analogy, that's a good way to frame it. He gave us 4 years. We watched him develop into a skilled, double digit scoring big. In this era, that is uncommon. |
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Post by lafleur10 on Apr 30, 2024 6:49:41 GMT -5
Chris is a great kid and we all wish him the best. However, not sure of the reasoning behind his decision. If the goal is to play some kind of professional basketball overseas, why not leverage the Kampe system another year and be a featured player? Not sure he will get the quality playing time elsewhere nor be able to quickly adapt to a new system. If instead he feels his career is winding down, then fine, go to another school and enjoy the final year of eligibility.
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Post by blackandgold on May 2, 2024 7:44:25 GMT -5
I wonder if the offer came in before or after he entered the portal.
I just gotta keep telling myself the Kampe mantra: adapt or die, adapt or die, adapt or die. This is basically employment now, which is fine, just very different and hard to adjust to.
Kampe and team are working the job market very well this off-season to bring in new talent for the next employment year. Hopefully there are enough culture setters remaining that the new employees can lean on some of the existing employees to learn the way, similar to how this year’s blend of veterans integrated in the new employees. Losing Conway hurts from a mere production standpoint as he was a rising employee, but also from the culture setting standpoint.
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Post by sportsdoctor05 on May 2, 2024 12:52:01 GMT -5
I wonder if the offer came in before or after he entered the portal. I just gotta keep telling myself the Kampe mantra: adapt or die, adapt or die, adapt or die. This is basically employment now, which is fine, just very different and hard to adjust to. Kampe and team are working the job market very well this off-season to bring in new talent for the next employment year. Hopefully there are enough culture setters remaining that the new employees can lean on some of the existing employees to learn the way, similar to how this year’s blend of veterans integrated in the new employees. Losing Conway hurts from a mere production standpoint as he was a rising employee, but also from the culture setting standpoint. Athletics brings in $, attention, applications, interest to a university. A few years from now, we will be able to tell the extent of how well our big time tourney win has impacted our OU. I have no problem with student athletes being looked at as employees. I'm thrilled that they finally are getting paid! I remember being at OU, & knowing some of the basketball players. The amount of commitment they maintain to be on the team is massive. It is like working a job. I hate to lose key guys like Conway & Trey, but I'm also happy that they are getting $$. Congrats to everyone who is finally able to benefit off of their NIL. Also, I'm pleased that Kampe has found success adapting. I'm curious to see how the new guys work out. And the future new guys that I'm anticipating coming in for next season. |
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Post by lafleur10 on May 5, 2024 7:46:40 GMT -5
Student/Athlete -> Athlete -> Employee
Totally understand the evolution of college athletics and how it relates to Oakland. Tend to think it is unsustainable.
Somewhat ironic given how many students at various schools, particularly in Michigan, have trouble paying tuition.
All the best to Chris Conway if the Illinois option is true.
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Post by oudrummer on May 5, 2024 8:57:30 GMT -5
It’s not Illinois. But I’m shocked he hasn’t announced and signed the offer because… whew. Confident for almost anyone it’s a life changing deal for a year of college basketball.
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Post by john on May 5, 2024 10:59:47 GMT -5
Washington.
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Post by blackandgold on May 9, 2024 5:06:29 GMT -5
On a WXOU radio interview, Kampe alluded to some numbers he heard for Trey and Chris. Trey: 500k. Chris: 350k (and a car). These figures are right in line with the prices noted in an Athletic article today, that pegged a transfer starter at $200k to 400k, and an all-league/POY type player at more than $400k. It is also widely agreed that transfer big men get paid the most.
If we then use those numbers and assume Micah Parrish got at least $150k from tOSU, then it is not a stretch to say that Oakland’s 2020 recruiting class of Trey, Chris, and Micah now plays at Arizona, Washington, and tOSU for combined compensation of $1 million, minimally, to play one season of college basketball. 🤯
As much as it does hurt to say this, I feel like this could be used as a recruiting story in the new age of college basketball. I don’t recall if a Chris had other Division I offers out of high school, but I seem to remember him committing early and he was a bit of a project. We know Trey and Micah were not fielding a ton of D-I offers. Come to Oakland, develop for a few years, if we are lucky they might stay a little longer, but if not, you helped Oakland and Oakland gave a showcase to improve and develop and parlay into a higher paying gig.
It’s a little bit of a stretch because Trey and Chris gave the program an entire collegiate career, and no doubt Micah’s profile improved more at SDSU, but it’s still a crazy fact that we could use in recruiting nowadays.
Edit: wanting to add, the reason it “hurts” or stings to say that, is I firmly believe outside of the money and facilities perks in the moment, Oakland can get a great player wherever he wants to go in life, from both a basketball and an educational perspective. But hundreds of thousands of dollars in the moment is insurmountable to any intangible current benefit or future reward to compete against, so might as well embrace it.
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